I would like to say that I'm posting this just to give props to a web site that has fought the hard fight of letting our voice be heard!
The good folks at "S.S.S" have been doing what's right by the character we all love "SUPERMAN," and my god man every word I ever wanted to utter after hearing the news about the reboot was said in their post.
Amazing the way they put it, and boy were they dead on!
The WB still don't fucking get it!
It's amazing it's seriously starting to sound like the WB are ran by total dickheads who have no clue about what these characters ARE!
Nolan lets be honest GETS IT!
He understands who Bruce Wayne is, and WHY he has to do what he does, and he gets the darkness in the character but SUPERMAN is not BATMAN he is the yin to BATMAN'S yang!
The only thing that should be DARK, and SCARY in the Superman movie is the bad guys! Give us a kick ass Darkseid badguy or a kick ass Lobo or a Doomsday for supes to fight, and make him very scary! Scarier then Nolan's Joker!
But Superman should inspire hope, truth, love, justice, and yes THE FUCKING AMERICAN WAY!
I'm not from the USA originally I was born in Cuba but I have been here most of my whole life. (Yes I came in 1980 on the banana boat) SO I like Superman am an immagrant, and I became an instant fan of Superman when I saw Superman 3, and I then went back, and saw part 1 and 2, and to me I was captured from that moment, and then I started collecting the comics, and growing up I always tried to be like how Clark/Superman is in my own life!
The character touched me in that sense that it inspired me to do good! I simply adore this character for the reason that it's a character based on a person who has nothing but these SUPER human powers, and he could easily RULE this planet but doesn't because it's not the right thing for him to do. I mean regardless of his powers he knows RIGHT from WRONG!
Plus his love for humanity makes him become the protector of our planet instead of the slave owner!
He is based on pure love, and while you can go very dark with his enemies it would be a sin to do this to THE MAN OF STEEL!
Superman is to good for that, and he deserves a movie that can really show him for what he is.
I really agree with how these guys put it a few days back..
[I so wanted that movie to work,” said Mark Waid, “but every choice they made in that movie was wrong. If you’re making the movie in a vacuum, and there will be no other Superman movies ever again, go ahead and give him a son. But otherwise, that’s a staggeringly awful idea. What are you going to do next? Either the kid has to be a part of his life, or get superpowers, which no one wants to see. I want to go to them and say, ‘What were you thinking?’”
“The idea was to make an American Christ figure, but what they centered on was his weakness,” Morrison said. “They made him more a lamb of God, rather than give us a real powerful Superman. They had too many scenes where he’s being kicked to the floor, and that’s not Superman. Superman would get up and fight.”
So these comics book writers are getting up and fighting too. Both Morrison and Geoff Johns have pitched the film studio on how to reboot Superman — properly reboot him, as if “Superman Returns” didn’t even happen.
“I told them, it’s not that bad,” Morrison said. “Just treat ‘Superman Returns’ as the Ang Lee ‘Hulk.’”
“‘The Hulk’ has proven the audience will forgive you and let you redo the franchise,” Waid said. “You can reboot from scratch.”
Morrison’s idea was a more “tight and concise” take on his “All-Star Superman,” so you’d see Superman address his mortality. And Waid suggests they take a look at his hard reboot, “Superman: Birthright.” But Brad Meltzer also has an idea that could work as the basis for the character, based on research for his upcoming “Book of Lies.”
“Superman is a character more recognizable than Abraham Lincoln or Mickey Mouse,” Meltzer said. “But no one knows crap about Mickey Mouse. He’s a symbol. Understanding a soul is much harder. So don’t treat him like a walking American flag.”
To understand Superman, Meltzer says, you have to know why Superman was created in the first place — because a young Jerry Siegel’s father was shot and killed in 1932 (a fact first uncovered by Gerard Jones in “Men of Tomorrow: Geeks, Gangsters and the Birth of the Comic Book”).
“Superman was created not because America is the greatest country on earth, not because Moses came to save us from Krypton, but because a little boy lost his father,” Meltzer said. “In his first appearances, he couldn’t fly. He didn’t have X-ray vision. He was only bulletproof. So Superman’s not a character built out of strength, but out of loss.” (MY GOD THEY GET IT!!!! HIRE THEM NOW!)
“When you hear that, it puts on a whole new spin on Superman and his origins,” Waid said. “The understanding was that Batman was born out of traged and Superman out of hope and aspiration, and it turns out that it’s about not wanting to lose your loved ones. That’s critical, and it means that we can connect with him. He’s not an untouchable character. Bad things still happen to him. His father passes away, and his powers can’t save him.”
And even if Superman still seems like too much of a Boy Scout, we’re supposed to be identifying with Clark Kent anyway. “Everybody knows what it’s like to see the pretty girl and think, ‘If only she could see me for who I really was,’” Waid said. “Past the glasses and acne or whatever. But he has to hide, and half his co-workers don’t even know his name. That’s a critical part, too.”
“It is so much deeper than, ‘He’s an alien with superpowers,’” Meltzer said. “I never wanted to write a Superman movie before, but I do now. I understand what Superman is now.”]
Like I said SUPERMAN is a character who has NOTHING because he lost everything before he was even a man! He grew up in a world that he could never really fit in.
He had to hide who he was to protect his only friends, and people who cared for him.
But with all the negatives he had he chose to become a protector, and help humanity, and not enslave it! He Stood for Truth! Justice, and the motherfucking AMERICAN WAY!
To play him any other way is a sin to his character, and a slap in the face to the fans like myself who like Superman love this country! Love this world! Even if this is my adopted country, and not my birth place.
I get the character! It's just a shame the WB doesn't have me working for them! heh
But the biggest shame is that they don't seem to have a single person on their entire company running the movie department that gets him!
But those boys over on TV sure get him, and the creators of the show are now off the show, and could pen a nice script for you to bring him to the big screen using THIS generations SUPERMAN Tom Welling who lets face it is the overall favorite HANDS down by the fans.
They don't need to re tell the origin in this story because well 8 full seasons have now passed on the show or 9 or whatever! So no need to go back to Smallville on the big screen, and show that!
Let the people buy the seasons on dvd, and check out Superman's early years after the movies out.
But since the show has not shown the actual sending of the baby from Krypton this is a way you can start the movie! Show that whole scene in the start, and give it a real epic feel to why Krypton is being destroyed! With today's cgi this could be an amazing way to kick off the story.
You could use Darkseid as the main badguy if you like while having LEX in the movie if you want but since Michael did leave the show no need to rush LEX back to the movie scene! You can have him be like the president in the background and maybe have only like 2 scenes so the rest of the movie is all Darkseid, and superman! But with Lex in the background always the master mind of the whole thing, and if you make it a trilogy you can use LEX in a final show down with SUPERMAN, and use LEX's Super suit if you want! heh
After the Krypton opening I would start off with the text "30 years later" as we see a reporter talking to a person standing at a white house press confrence, and we see Clark & Lois acting like actual reporters, and not what Singer made them to be! Fucking order takers.
Notice they really don't do any real reporting work in the movie SR!!! Lot's of traspassing but no actual reporter work.
Then you could have the movies action start up right away AND you can have Darkseid tie into the destruction of Krypton which would explain why they would show Krypton in the start, and since the movie kicks right into the story they could give us the fans exactly what we want!
SUPERMAN ACTUALLY FIGHTING SOMEONE!
I mean I know Kryptonite kills him! I get it! But come on he's SUPERMAN! He got his ass kicked in SR, and he never threw a single punch!!!! Oh, and him lifting heavy things is NOT ACTION!
That's one thing someone forgot to tell Singer I think because every "Action" scene includes him lifting something heavy! From the plane (The worst scene in the entire film!) to a car to a gloab of earth falling from the roof of the Daily Planet!
He lifted so much that they should have called it "Superman lift's things" instead of "Superman Returns!"
Also on a side note here... Why is it that every time the WB has tried to make a movie with the title reflecting a return or a statement that makes you think that this is going to be the mainstay face we see! Like BATMAN FOREVER! or SUPERMAN RETURNS! The movies end up sucking, and the actors end up getting recast?
hmmmm They should think about this... BATMAN BEGINS worked, and was nice but "The Dark Knight" really called out the fans!
The title means a lot it shows that hey it's something NEW!
I do like the title "The Man of Steel" for the new movie but maybe a title like "The Man from Krypton" could work also... heh. :)
In closing I want to say again that the post over at "S.S.S" was excellent!
I agree with everything, and I hope the WB is reading this! So to all check the post out, and hey WB! If your listening!
CAST TOM WELLING, MAKE THIS A KICK ASS SUPERMAN MOVIE, AND GIVE US THE FANS WHAT WE ALL WANT!
THE SUPERMAN THAT STANDS FOR TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY!
BE FUCKING PROUD OF YOUR GOD DAMN COUNTRY IF NOT WELL YOU WILL BURN IN HELL! THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WAN'T TO SEE!!!!!!