Saturday, August 30, 2008
NEW SUPERMAN POLL!!!!! Hurry go VOTE!!!
I found this poll to be rather funny when I first saw it earlier last night Brandon Routh was leading, and that shocked the hell out of me! But was not shocked to see Tom Welling take over the lead in a commanding way.
Does not shock me since he has played the role more then anyone else alive or dead, and is the face of this generations incarnation to SUPERMAN.
So don't let the 30 or so ugly fat women over on the sites of the Singer apologists get their way! Keep voting for Welling.
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
The Don't Bring back Bryan Singer & Brandon Routh to the next SUPERMAN project petition
Well things sure have been busy as of late, and wouldn't you know just when things we're looking up with the WB, and the whole Reboot thing I felt that still things we're not clear enough so I said let me make a petition, and send it to the WB.
This will help make things clearer so we don't have to spend the next couple of years or x amount of month's bickering, and bitching at each other in Fan Forums.
Or websites like thing one or "S.S.S." So I bring you all my petition! It's The Don't Bring back Bryan Singer & Brandon Routh to the next SUPERMAN project petition We as fans deserve to have this mess of a movie that was Superman Returns put behind us, and so we could move foward in a positive way, and help unite the fanbase so we could stand behind the next SUPERMAN project how we as BATMAN fans stand behind NOLAN'S BATMAN franchise.
We want this for SUPERMAN!!! But only once the removal of the problem (Singer/Routh/Bosworth/Spacey/The Kid) is made.
Let's move foward in a positive way, and announce their official termination now rather then drag this out for another 10 months or 2 years.
Also for fans who want to do more then just sign a petition! DO This!
This will help make things clearer so we don't have to spend the next couple of years or x amount of month's bickering, and bitching at each other in Fan Forums.
Or websites like thing one or "S.S.S." So I bring you all my petition! It's The Don't Bring back Bryan Singer & Brandon Routh to the next SUPERMAN project petition We as fans deserve to have this mess of a movie that was Superman Returns put behind us, and so we could move foward in a positive way, and help unite the fanbase so we could stand behind the next SUPERMAN project how we as BATMAN fans stand behind NOLAN'S BATMAN franchise.
We want this for SUPERMAN!!! But only once the removal of the problem (Singer/Routh/Bosworth/Spacey/The Kid) is made.
Let's move foward in a positive way, and announce their official termination now rather then drag this out for another 10 months or 2 years.
Also for fans who want to do more then just sign a petition! DO This!
Write the WB:
4000 Warner Blvd.
Burbank, CA 91522
4000 Warner Blvd.
Burbank, CA 91522
Write "Don't Bring back Bryan Singer or Brandon Routh on the post car, and send it to the Warner Brothers Entertainment company. Make your friends, an family members write in also, and if you have kids make sure they do it also, and put their age on the post card so they know that people of all ages want this to happen, and any friends who you might know that like Superman, and didn't like the movie! Make sure they do it also.
Let's show the WB that we want a better movie from them, and let these Singer apologists know that they like him simply don't understand this character, and this is why the movie failed to begin with.
It's time we get the same treatment for SUPERMAN that Nolan is giving BATMAN!
And we don't mean a DARKER more Evil side to SUPERMAN we simply want the movie done right!
Let's show the WB that we want a better movie from them, and let these Singer apologists know that they like him simply don't understand this character, and this is why the movie failed to begin with.
It's time we get the same treatment for SUPERMAN that Nolan is giving BATMAN!
And we don't mean a DARKER more Evil side to SUPERMAN we simply want the movie done right!
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
You know Sometimes you just have to tip your hat!
I would like to say that I'm posting this just to give props to a web site that has fought the hard fight of letting our voice be heard!
The good folks at "S.S.S" have been doing what's right by the character we all love "SUPERMAN," and my god man every word I ever wanted to utter after hearing the news about the reboot was said in their post.
Amazing the way they put it, and boy were they dead on!
The WB still don't fucking get it!
It's amazing it's seriously starting to sound like the WB are ran by total dickheads who have no clue about what these characters ARE!
Nolan lets be honest GETS IT!
He understands who Bruce Wayne is, and WHY he has to do what he does, and he gets the darkness in the character but SUPERMAN is not BATMAN he is the yin to BATMAN'S yang!
The only thing that should be DARK, and SCARY in the Superman movie is the bad guys! Give us a kick ass Darkseid badguy or a kick ass Lobo or a Doomsday for supes to fight, and make him very scary! Scarier then Nolan's Joker!
But Superman should inspire hope, truth, love, justice, and yes THE FUCKING AMERICAN WAY!
I'm not from the USA originally I was born in Cuba but I have been here most of my whole life. (Yes I came in 1980 on the banana boat) SO I like Superman am an immagrant, and I became an instant fan of Superman when I saw Superman 3, and I then went back, and saw part 1 and 2, and to me I was captured from that moment, and then I started collecting the comics, and growing up I always tried to be like how Clark/Superman is in my own life!
The character touched me in that sense that it inspired me to do good! I simply adore this character for the reason that it's a character based on a person who has nothing but these SUPER human powers, and he could easily RULE this planet but doesn't because it's not the right thing for him to do. I mean regardless of his powers he knows RIGHT from WRONG!
Plus his love for humanity makes him become the protector of our planet instead of the slave owner!
He is based on pure love, and while you can go very dark with his enemies it would be a sin to do this to THE MAN OF STEEL!
Superman is to good for that, and he deserves a movie that can really show him for what he is.
I really agree with how these guys put it a few days back..
[I so wanted that movie to work,” said Mark Waid, “but every choice they made in that movie was wrong. If you’re making the movie in a vacuum, and there will be no other Superman movies ever again, go ahead and give him a son. But otherwise, that’s a staggeringly awful idea. What are you going to do next? Either the kid has to be a part of his life, or get superpowers, which no one wants to see. I want to go to them and say, ‘What were you thinking?’”
“The idea was to make an American Christ figure, but what they centered on was his weakness,” Morrison said. “They made him more a lamb of God, rather than give us a real powerful Superman. They had too many scenes where he’s being kicked to the floor, and that’s not Superman. Superman would get up and fight.”
So these comics book writers are getting up and fighting too. Both Morrison and Geoff Johns have pitched the film studio on how to reboot Superman — properly reboot him, as if “Superman Returns” didn’t even happen.
“I told them, it’s not that bad,” Morrison said. “Just treat ‘Superman Returns’ as the Ang Lee ‘Hulk.’”
“‘The Hulk’ has proven the audience will forgive you and let you redo the franchise,” Waid said. “You can reboot from scratch.”
Morrison’s idea was a more “tight and concise” take on his “All-Star Superman,” so you’d see Superman address his mortality. And Waid suggests they take a look at his hard reboot, “Superman: Birthright.” But Brad Meltzer also has an idea that could work as the basis for the character, based on research for his upcoming “Book of Lies.”
“Superman is a character more recognizable than Abraham Lincoln or Mickey Mouse,” Meltzer said. “But no one knows crap about Mickey Mouse. He’s a symbol. Understanding a soul is much harder. So don’t treat him like a walking American flag.”
To understand Superman, Meltzer says, you have to know why Superman was created in the first place — because a young Jerry Siegel’s father was shot and killed in 1932 (a fact first uncovered by Gerard Jones in “Men of Tomorrow: Geeks, Gangsters and the Birth of the Comic Book”).
“Superman was created not because America is the greatest country on earth, not because Moses came to save us from Krypton, but because a little boy lost his father,” Meltzer said. “In his first appearances, he couldn’t fly. He didn’t have X-ray vision. He was only bulletproof. So Superman’s not a character built out of strength, but out of loss.” (MY GOD THEY GET IT!!!! HIRE THEM NOW!)
“When you hear that, it puts on a whole new spin on Superman and his origins,” Waid said. “The understanding was that Batman was born out of traged and Superman out of hope and aspiration, and it turns out that it’s about not wanting to lose your loved ones. That’s critical, and it means that we can connect with him. He’s not an untouchable character. Bad things still happen to him. His father passes away, and his powers can’t save him.”
And even if Superman still seems like too much of a Boy Scout, we’re supposed to be identifying with Clark Kent anyway. “Everybody knows what it’s like to see the pretty girl and think, ‘If only she could see me for who I really was,’” Waid said. “Past the glasses and acne or whatever. But he has to hide, and half his co-workers don’t even know his name. That’s a critical part, too.”
“It is so much deeper than, ‘He’s an alien with superpowers,’” Meltzer said. “I never wanted to write a Superman movie before, but I do now. I understand what Superman is now.”]
Like I said SUPERMAN is a character who has NOTHING because he lost everything before he was even a man! He grew up in a world that he could never really fit in.
He had to hide who he was to protect his only friends, and people who cared for him.
But with all the negatives he had he chose to become a protector, and help humanity, and not enslave it! He Stood for Truth! Justice, and the motherfucking AMERICAN WAY!
To play him any other way is a sin to his character, and a slap in the face to the fans like myself who like Superman love this country! Love this world! Even if this is my adopted country, and not my birth place.
I get the character! It's just a shame the WB doesn't have me working for them! heh
But the biggest shame is that they don't seem to have a single person on their entire company running the movie department that gets him!
But those boys over on TV sure get him, and the creators of the show are now off the show, and could pen a nice script for you to bring him to the big screen using THIS generations SUPERMAN Tom Welling who lets face it is the overall favorite HANDS down by the fans.
They don't need to re tell the origin in this story because well 8 full seasons have now passed on the show or 9 or whatever! So no need to go back to Smallville on the big screen, and show that!
Let the people buy the seasons on dvd, and check out Superman's early years after the movies out.
But since the show has not shown the actual sending of the baby from Krypton this is a way you can start the movie! Show that whole scene in the start, and give it a real epic feel to why Krypton is being destroyed! With today's cgi this could be an amazing way to kick off the story.
You could use Darkseid as the main badguy if you like while having LEX in the movie if you want but since Michael did leave the show no need to rush LEX back to the movie scene! You can have him be like the president in the background and maybe have only like 2 scenes so the rest of the movie is all Darkseid, and superman! But with Lex in the background always the master mind of the whole thing, and if you make it a trilogy you can use LEX in a final show down with SUPERMAN, and use LEX's Super suit if you want! heh
After the Krypton opening I would start off with the text "30 years later" as we see a reporter talking to a person standing at a white house press confrence, and we see Clark & Lois acting like actual reporters, and not what Singer made them to be! Fucking order takers.
Notice they really don't do any real reporting work in the movie SR!!! Lot's of traspassing but no actual reporter work.
Then you could have the movies action start up right away AND you can have Darkseid tie into the destruction of Krypton which would explain why they would show Krypton in the start, and since the movie kicks right into the story they could give us the fans exactly what we want!
SUPERMAN ACTUALLY FIGHTING SOMEONE!
I mean I know Kryptonite kills him! I get it! But come on he's SUPERMAN! He got his ass kicked in SR, and he never threw a single punch!!!! Oh, and him lifting heavy things is NOT ACTION!
That's one thing someone forgot to tell Singer I think because every "Action" scene includes him lifting something heavy! From the plane (The worst scene in the entire film!) to a car to a gloab of earth falling from the roof of the Daily Planet!
He lifted so much that they should have called it "Superman lift's things" instead of "Superman Returns!"
Also on a side note here... Why is it that every time the WB has tried to make a movie with the title reflecting a return or a statement that makes you think that this is going to be the mainstay face we see! Like BATMAN FOREVER! or SUPERMAN RETURNS! The movies end up sucking, and the actors end up getting recast?
hmmmm They should think about this... BATMAN BEGINS worked, and was nice but "The Dark Knight" really called out the fans!
The title means a lot it shows that hey it's something NEW!
I do like the title "The Man of Steel" for the new movie but maybe a title like "The Man from Krypton" could work also... heh. :)
In closing I want to say again that the post over at "S.S.S" was excellent!
I agree with everything, and I hope the WB is reading this! So to all check the post out, and hey WB! If your listening!
CAST TOM WELLING, MAKE THIS A KICK ASS SUPERMAN MOVIE, AND GIVE US THE FANS WHAT WE ALL WANT!
THE SUPERMAN THAT STANDS FOR TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY!
BE FUCKING PROUD OF YOUR GOD DAMN COUNTRY IF NOT WELL YOU WILL BURN IN HELL! THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WAN'T TO SEE!!!!!!
Smallville: Should Tom Welling Be Cast as the Big Screen Superman?
Last week, Warner Brothers Pictures Group President Jeff Robinov announced that the studio plans to reboot the Superman film franchise yet again. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Robinov mentioned the studio's desire to put a darker spin on the character in order to capitalize on the success of The Dark Knight. This means that the next Superman film will look nothing like Bryan Singer's Superman Returns, which didn't rake in as much cash as the studio hoped. Singer and Returns star Brandon Routh will likely be out, which means the search for an all new Superman will soon be on.
With Superman getting another reboot, it's time to ponder that age old question: Should Smallville's Tom Welling be cast as the big screen version of Clark Kent?
There was a time when Christian Bale was only known by hardcore film geeks such as myself. The actor had been putting in solid work for years, but after his roles in the extremely awesome Equilibrium and American Psycho fans all across the Internet started shouting that he'd be a great choice for Batman. Cut to a few years later, and director Christopher Nolan cast Bale as Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins. I'm sure Nolan didn't make his decision based solely on message board hype, but the outcries of fans certainly didn't hurt.
When it came time for Bryan Singer to cast Superman Returns, Smallville fans also took the Internet to post about how Tom Welling would be perfect for the title role. They didn't get their wish, however, either because Singer wasn't interested in the actor or because Welling was still committed to Smallville. Brandon Routh took on the role and did an admirable job, but the movie didn't exactly rocket him to stardom.
It's tough to know if Welling would fit into the new vision that Warners has for Superman. I think making the character darker based on the success of The Dark Knight is fairly ridiculous, as Superman isn't a particularly dark and edgy character. Regardless of my opinion, the studio seems determined to inject fresh blood into its stalled franchise.
We've seen Welling play dark on Smallville more than a few times, so we certainly know he could pull it off, and like Bale he has a strong fan base backing him up. It's also likely that Welling's time on Smallville will be over by the time the new movie begins filming, which will probably be in 2010. It's impossible to know what this latest big screen reboot of Superman will look like, but if you think Welling deserves to be cast, now is the time to speak up.
With Superman getting another reboot, it's time to ponder that age old question: Should Smallville's Tom Welling be cast as the big screen version of Clark Kent?
There was a time when Christian Bale was only known by hardcore film geeks such as myself. The actor had been putting in solid work for years, but after his roles in the extremely awesome Equilibrium and American Psycho fans all across the Internet started shouting that he'd be a great choice for Batman. Cut to a few years later, and director Christopher Nolan cast Bale as Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins. I'm sure Nolan didn't make his decision based solely on message board hype, but the outcries of fans certainly didn't hurt.
When it came time for Bryan Singer to cast Superman Returns, Smallville fans also took the Internet to post about how Tom Welling would be perfect for the title role. They didn't get their wish, however, either because Singer wasn't interested in the actor or because Welling was still committed to Smallville. Brandon Routh took on the role and did an admirable job, but the movie didn't exactly rocket him to stardom.
It's tough to know if Welling would fit into the new vision that Warners has for Superman. I think making the character darker based on the success of The Dark Knight is fairly ridiculous, as Superman isn't a particularly dark and edgy character. Regardless of my opinion, the studio seems determined to inject fresh blood into its stalled franchise.
We've seen Welling play dark on Smallville more than a few times, so we certainly know he could pull it off, and like Bale he has a strong fan base backing him up. It's also likely that Welling's time on Smallville will be over by the time the new movie begins filming, which will probably be in 2010. It's impossible to know what this latest big screen reboot of Superman will look like, but if you think Welling deserves to be cast, now is the time to speak up.
Friday, August 22, 2008
It's finally over! Singerman is done! [BREAKING NEWS] "The Plan Is Just To Reintroduce Superman..."
Well it's finally the day! The day we have all been waiting for. The WB has made it clear folks. We now know what they plan on doing with their Superman franchise, and to be honest while this news is heavenly so far their attempt to try, and make things "clear" they still spoke in code. Either way we are seeing them admit that SUPERMAN RETURNS failed, and was a failure not only commercial but also artistic. Well here is the breaking news.
Warner Bets on Fewer, Bigger Movies
By LAUREN A.E. SCHUKER
August 22, 2008; Page B1
Emboldened by this summer's success with "The Dark Knight," Warner Bros.' movie studio is setting a new strategy.
The Time Warner Inc. unit, like some other Hollywood studios, is planning to release fewer films into the crowded marketplace. But the studio, known for making more big, expensive movies than most rivals, plans to make even more of those -- some centered on properties from its DC Comics unit, such as Batman.
[Christopher Nolan directs actor Aaron Eckhart on the set of Warner Bros. hit 'The Dark Knight.' ]
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Christopher Nolan directs actor Aaron Eckhart on the set of Warner Bros. hit 'The Dark Knight.'
Warner Bros. Pictures Group President Jeff Robinov wants the studio to release as many as eight such movies a year by 2011. "The long-term goal of the studio is to take advantage of what has become a very global market by focusing on bigger films that require a bigger commitment," he says. Warner Bros. films released last year grossed $2 billion internationally, about 42% more than their $1.4 billion domestic take.
Mining the comic-book franchise is central to the success of Warner Bros.' strategy. Its lineup of "tent poles" -- Hollywood-speak for big movies that are the foundation of a studio's slate -- has thinned. Warner Bros. has been slow to capitalize on DC, and it now faces a rival in Marvel Entertainment Inc.'s Marvel Studios, the company behind box-office gusher "Iron Man."
Superhero films based on comic-book legends, like "The Dark Knight," have emerged as some of the strongest players in the global market, in part because they're natural candidates for tie-ups with consumer products and games that can also be marketed globally.
"Superheroes are more global than ever in today's commercial world, existing in 30 languages and in more than 60 countries," says Paul Levitz, president and publisher of DC Comics. The characters are "a world-wide export," he says.
[Marvel's 'Iron Man,' was a big success at the box office.Warner has been slower to capitalize on its DC Comics characters.]
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Marvel's 'Iron Man,' was a big success at the box office. Warner has been slower to capitalize on its DC Comics characters.
"Films with our DC properties have the opportunity to support other divisions in the company in a way that our other movies don't," Mr. Robinov says, for example, with products such as a Superman game or toys. By 2011, Mr. Robinov plans for DC Comics to supply the material for up to two of the six to eight tent-pole films he hopes Warner Bros. will have in the pipeline by then.
While big ambitions can result in a huge payoff, they can also end in huge losses. Warner's car adventure "Speed Racer" bombed at the box office in May. The film, said to have cost as much as $150 million, has taken in only $43.9 million in the U.S. Some other big-budget Warner films, such as spy comedy "Get Smart," also have failed to meet expectations.
Earlier this year, Warner Bros. shut its two art-house labels, Picturehouse and Warner Independent Pictures. The studio currently releases 25 to 26 films a year. By 2010, Mr. Robinov plans to pare production to 20 to 22 movies a year.
A movie referred to internally as "Justice League of America," originally said to be for next summer, was planned as one of the studio's major releases. With that film, starring a superhero team, Warner hoped to spark interest in DC characters like Green Lantern who haven't yet attained the level of popularity of Batman. But script problems, among other things, have delayed the movie.
The studio said last week that "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," originally slated for November release, would come out next July -- on the same weekend that "The Dark Knight" opened this year. The Batman sequel made more than $150 million in the U.S. that weekend. "We just needed a July movie," said Alan Horn, president of the studio, at the time.
Warner Bros. also put on hold plans for another movie starring multiple superheroes -- known as "Batman vs. Superman" -- after the $215 million "Superman Returns," which had disappointing box-office returns, didn't please executives. "'Superman' didn't quite work as a film in the way that we wanted it to," says Mr. Robinov. "It didn't position the character the way he needed to be positioned." "Had 'Superman' worked in 2006, we would have had a movie for Christmas of this year or 2009," he adds. "But now the plan is just to reintroduce Superman without regard to a Batman and Superman movie at all."
One of the studio's other big releases planned for 2009, "Watchmen," is the subject of a high-profile copyright lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California by News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox.
Based on the premise that superheroes are real people grappling with their own problems, "Watchmen" is an apocalyptic vision of their world. Fox says it is seeking an injunction to enforce its copyright interest in the film. Last week, a federal judge ruled that it may have rights to the property. News Corp. is the parent of Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co.
With "Batman vs. Superman" and "Justice League" stalled, Warner Bros. has quietly adopted Marvel's model of releasing a single film for each character, and then using those movies and their sequels to build up to a multicharacter film. "Along those lines, we have been developing every DC character that we own," Mr. Robinov says.
Like the recent Batman sequel -- which has become the highest-grossing film of the year thus far -- Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight." Creatively, he sees exploring the evil side to characters as the key to unlocking some of Warner Bros.' DC properties. "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," he says. That goes for the company's Superman franchise as well.
The studio is set to announce its plans for future DC movies in the next month. For now, though, it is focused on releasing four comic-book films in the next three years, including a third Batman film, a new film reintroducing Superman, and two movies focusing on other DC Comics characters. Movies featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Wonder Woman are all in active development.
Many of the studio's directors credit Mr. Robinov for taking Warner Bros.' films in a darker and deeper direction. Christopher Nolan, who directed "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," says Mr. Robinov "really encouraged the logic of the villain" from "Batman Begins." That led to focusing heavily on the Joker in the sequel. "At the script stage, Jeff really wanted us to be very clear on the Joker's lack of purpose," he says.
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